Journalist and podcaster, Eli Lake, sits down with Bridget for a wide ranging conversation that wanders from tracing the evolution of comedy, from Lenny Bruce’s groundbreaking defiance to Shane Gillis’s resilience against cancel culture, to making compelling parallels between the fall of the Roman Republic and contemporary political challenges - including Pakistan’s deep state and its global implications. They cover addiction, creativity, wondering if there any third rails left, whether Kanye’s most controversial song is the price we must pay for freedom, the challenge of covering Trump, and why comparison is the thief of joy and importance of staying out of bitterness and resentment.
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