Societies create acceptable paths for their participants to follow. One of which (whether you consider it primary or not) is the School, Dating, Career, Marriage, Family, Retirement path. Ask yourself, if one or more of these "goals" is not achieved, would you consider yourself to be "lost"? No, not if you were content with your progress....but certainly others - who WERE on the proscribed path - might see you in that way. In fact, those ON the path might see those NOT on the path as a dissident (you may substitute "deviant", "danger", "threat", "terrorist", "anarchist", etc. depending on the circumstance). A negotiated level of societal tolerance allows for a certain number of non-path individuals while still maintaining cohesion...but there is a breaking point...in which case a society collapses. Past tests include the civil rights push, feminism, gay rights...perhaps you can think of others.
To conclude: Who you view as "lost" is dependent on your perspective.
I think culture is downstream from politics. In the sense that government institutions and their mouthpiece universities and media are actually intentionally destroying Western culture and values. Then it politically manifests in what we believe and do with politics.
"If you're 50 years old and you've not been able to form some type of long-term relationship with a woman, why would you be able to start now?" Harsh AF. I'm a 55 year-old woman who's never been in a relationship longer than four consecutive years. I have no kids. This hypothetical man interests me because he's like me. It takes all kinds. But dating apps would annihilate me due to my particulars, so I avoid them (and so does Mr. Hypothetical). So, alone we continue. And that is how this happens in 2025 (and for the past 20 years). Has little to do with anything you assume. I've been told I'm beautiful, I'm educated, I work, I'm self-sufficient. And he is, too.
I would disagree in the sense that 4 years qualifies as long-term. Also, he’s talking about it from the man’s perspective, not the woman’s.
When I was on the dating apps, if I saw a man in his 50s who had never been married and had no kids, I definitely steered clear of that profile. If he’s been unable to commit up to this point, why would he commit now?
Never been married/no kids does not = unable to commit. It's just a different life path, set of values, fateful circumstances. I suppose if you're looking to have kids or have another man around your existing kids, you want some kind of conventional track record, but for me, not so much. I'd likely prefer an atypical, childless partner, like myself, and I don't assume such men are somehow deficient. Maybe I should try online dating again! It f*cking sucks though. LOL
Independent women dont need or want men who beg them for sex all of the time. Marriage for independent women is a trap. Marriage for man who brings home the bread without a prenup is a trap. Stay out of the trap!
I’m a “woke” liberal and proud of it, but I still found much about this podcast that I agreed with. You gave me hope for the future. I listened all the way through. It’s been awhile since I’ve heard such thoughtful, intelligent conversation from conservatives. Maybe it’s because the more outrageous comments get more press?
Gee I wish the Democrats and Republicans could sit down and have thoughtful, well-considered conversations with the goal of finding reasonable compromises. I’m glad I took the time to listen with an open mind. You gave me hope that someday we can find common ground and less acrimony. Not that I agreed with everything, but I agreed with enough. Thank you for the pleasure of listening.
Some men find themselves there -- arguably not much of a higher purpose than raising kids. And some lose themselves there -- every place of refuge has its price.
Singer of sad songs and all that, but in the latter case I'm reminded of many "trans widows" whose husbands attempt to "transition" into females (sex). Imitation is, I guess, the sincerest form of flattery, and some women may find that sufficient -- which probably doesn't say much that is flattering about them.
Battle or war between the sexes -- no "hope" of final resolution; too much "fraternization" between the combatants ... 😉🙂
Something of an addendum to the above, a fond memory of an old Harry Belafonte song about Eve and the Garden of Eden, though more about after she and Adam had "departed" therefrom: "Ever Eve was Able she was raising Cain", so to speak ...
Societies create acceptable paths for their participants to follow. One of which (whether you consider it primary or not) is the School, Dating, Career, Marriage, Family, Retirement path. Ask yourself, if one or more of these "goals" is not achieved, would you consider yourself to be "lost"? No, not if you were content with your progress....but certainly others - who WERE on the proscribed path - might see you in that way. In fact, those ON the path might see those NOT on the path as a dissident (you may substitute "deviant", "danger", "threat", "terrorist", "anarchist", etc. depending on the circumstance). A negotiated level of societal tolerance allows for a certain number of non-path individuals while still maintaining cohesion...but there is a breaking point...in which case a society collapses. Past tests include the civil rights push, feminism, gay rights...perhaps you can think of others.
To conclude: Who you view as "lost" is dependent on your perspective.
Really interesting examination of the profound impact marriage has on society and the risks when it is not supported. Bravo, for taking on the issue.
I think culture is downstream from politics. In the sense that government institutions and their mouthpiece universities and media are actually intentionally destroying Western culture and values. Then it politically manifests in what we believe and do with politics.
"If you're 50 years old and you've not been able to form some type of long-term relationship with a woman, why would you be able to start now?" Harsh AF. I'm a 55 year-old woman who's never been in a relationship longer than four consecutive years. I have no kids. This hypothetical man interests me because he's like me. It takes all kinds. But dating apps would annihilate me due to my particulars, so I avoid them (and so does Mr. Hypothetical). So, alone we continue. And that is how this happens in 2025 (and for the past 20 years). Has little to do with anything you assume. I've been told I'm beautiful, I'm educated, I work, I'm self-sufficient. And he is, too.
I would disagree in the sense that 4 years qualifies as long-term. Also, he’s talking about it from the man’s perspective, not the woman’s.
When I was on the dating apps, if I saw a man in his 50s who had never been married and had no kids, I definitely steered clear of that profile. If he’s been unable to commit up to this point, why would he commit now?
Never been married/no kids does not = unable to commit. It's just a different life path, set of values, fateful circumstances. I suppose if you're looking to have kids or have another man around your existing kids, you want some kind of conventional track record, but for me, not so much. I'd likely prefer an atypical, childless partner, like myself, and I don't assume such men are somehow deficient. Maybe I should try online dating again! It f*cking sucks though. LOL
Yeah, the dating apps can be harsh. 🙁
Independent women dont need or want men who beg them for sex all of the time. Marriage for independent women is a trap. Marriage for man who brings home the bread without a prenup is a trap. Stay out of the trap!
I’m a “woke” liberal and proud of it, but I still found much about this podcast that I agreed with. You gave me hope for the future. I listened all the way through. It’s been awhile since I’ve heard such thoughtful, intelligent conversation from conservatives. Maybe it’s because the more outrageous comments get more press?
Gee I wish the Democrats and Republicans could sit down and have thoughtful, well-considered conversations with the goal of finding reasonable compromises. I’m glad I took the time to listen with an open mind. You gave me hope that someday we can find common ground and less acrimony. Not that I agreed with everything, but I agreed with enough. Thank you for the pleasure of listening.
Loved this topic and interview! Will be reading his book too.
I do not, categorically feel lost without marriage !
I'm em-fucking-powered being single talking shit on stage….as a Stand-up.
Bridget is awesome, but I prefer interviews with the likes of my other hero : Liz Wolfe !!
Or…..Carol Roth !!
#NotAllMen ... 😉🙂
Some men find themselves there -- arguably not much of a higher purpose than raising kids. And some lose themselves there -- every place of refuge has its price.
Singer of sad songs and all that, but in the latter case I'm reminded of many "trans widows" whose husbands attempt to "transition" into females (sex). Imitation is, I guess, the sincerest form of flattery, and some women may find that sufficient -- which probably doesn't say much that is flattering about them.
Battle or war between the sexes -- no "hope" of final resolution; too much "fraternization" between the combatants ... 😉🙂
Something of an addendum to the above, a fond memory of an old Harry Belafonte song about Eve and the Garden of Eden, though more about after she and Adam had "departed" therefrom: "Ever Eve was Able she was raising Cain", so to speak ...